Decisions, Decisions — 2012 Waitlist Edition
We Admit It! We don’t have a lot of easy answers for those of you who find yourself in limbo on the waitlist. Your accomplishments and talents are absolutely worthy of admission. You are the type of student we encourage to apply. And we’ll Admit It!, in a different year with a different applicant pool you could have found yourself admitted. But this year is this year, and the applicant pool was incredibly strong which left some unbelievably amazing students without admission offers. That being said, you are not denied admission and our waitlist offer conveys just how strong your credentials are.
This year’s applicant pool is the most competitive in the College’s history. We had nearly 800 additional applications from last year, yet no additional spaces in the incoming class. This left us no other choice but to waitlist some unbelievably talented, smart and worthwhile students.
As your decision email said we have no idea whether or not we will be in the position to admit additional students in May or June. Like you, we need to wait and see how many admitted students accept our offer. Right now, what you do next is in your hands. You do not have to respond immediately to our waitlist offer though you can if you like. Take some time; assess what offers of admission are in front of you and how you want to proceed. What’s most important right now is that you consider the offers of admission you do have and that you affirmatively enroll in one of those institutions to ensure you have a place in an incoming freshman class. If after some careful contemplation you decide that W&M is still a top choice for you, and that you would genuinely consider an offer of admission if provided over the summer, then respond to the online form linked in your decision email and add yourself to our waitlist. When you add yourself to the waitlist has no bearing on whether or not you will be admitted. If, come late April, W&M remains an absolute top choice, you can email your regional dean a statement of continued interest. Other than that we do not expect you to update your file in any way. The time for applying to colleges has come and gone; now is the time to focus on selecting a college and finishing your senior year.
In mid-May, we will begin to take stock of the Class of 2016 and begin to determine whether any additional admission offers can be made. Once that decision is made (which may not be until sometime in June) we will contact any students to whom we wish to offer admission by phone and email. All students on the waitlist will hear from us around June 15 with a general waitlist update.
We know you were hoping for more, and we’re sincerely sorry that we cannot provide you with an offer of admission to the Class of 2016 at this time. We have absolutely no doubt that your amazing application will net you some fantastic offers of admission and we hope that our waitlist decision is an anomaly for you. You are all stellar young men and women and we wish you all the best, and while we hope you keep W&M in mind, we know that your future will be amazing whatever decision you make.
Wendy Livingston ’03, M.Ed. ‘09
Senior Assistant Dean of Admission
Comments are closed on posts older than one year, but we still want to hear from you. If you have a comment or question for us, please email admission@wm.edu.
Hello, I was waitlisted and I’m not quite sure how to make my decision considering all the other colleges need a decision by May 1st. If we are set on W&M do we just decline all other offers and hope for the best, knowing there is a chance we could not get accepted?
Jordan, as we explained above, it’s absolutely imperative that you submit an enrollment deposit by May 1 to a school that did offer you admission. We will not know whether we are going to the waitlist prior to that date and you don’t want to leave yourself with any options.
If you get into W&M off our waitlist, you simply inform the school you deposited at that you now intend to enroll elsewhere. You’ll forfeit the deposit you made to that school but will be open to enrolling elsewhere.
funny, the way the cookie crumbles. My only non-acceptance so far, and its the only school that I actually fell in love with when i visited last spring. :/ I just wish i had spent more time or added that little bit of something extra to my application that would have made it worthy of acceptance, instead of wait-listed.
Is there a way to find out our spot number on the wait list or is everyone still interested evaluated again?
Regretful, a waitlist offer, though it doesn’t seem that way, is positive. It means you were competitive for admission and that we wish we had space to make you an offer. Sounds like you have other great options however and you can of course elect to remain on our waitlist and see what happens.
Elizabeth, when you get a chance, review the frequently asked questions about the waitlist linked in your email. It provides a lot of great insight and answers many such questions. The waitlist isn’t ranked. You don’t have a “spot.” If we go to the waitlist, we will evaluate everyone on it and determine who is most competitive for admission.
Is there a ” revisit ” day ? Do wait listed students attend?
Kathy, we don’t have any programs for waitlisted students. We encourage waitlisted students to spend April visiting the schools they were admitted to becuase we know it’s a time crunch and you likely have several campuses to visit. Does this answer your question?
This is completely insulting. I slaved away for four years, sacrificing friends, family, and personal relationships. I took the hardest courses possible (full IB), was at the top of my class, took extra classes over the summer, visited the campus multiple times and YET that still isn’t enough?!? I had great SAT scores, got above 700 on all of my SAT subject tests, and had a grandmother and parent that went to William and Mary. How do you expect me to explain this to them?!! And to top it off, I have classmates with lower grades, worse SATs, and inferior extra-curricular activities, and yet that were accepted over me! However, they were minority students, so I guess that shows where the school’s true priorities lie. Thankfully I was accepted to a far better institution. Keep your measly spot on the waitlist!
Bitter, sounds like you are an incredible student and that’s why you are not denied admission. The waitlist offer absolutely confers the competitive qualities of your application and that we simply do not have enough spots to offer to every student who can be successful at W&M. We understand your frustration, your disappointment and your anger.
Congrats on having other offers as no doubt you are an incredible student and will make that school proud.
If we are not chosen from the waitlist to attend next year, will there be more chance of being accepted as a transfer student since we were waitlisted the first time?
Also, on the transfer page the college recommends that we take core classes that are easily transferable, but because I passed my AP tests with 5s I am not required to take many core classes are the university I plan on attending. Which classes would be good to take instead and still look like a competitive transfer applicant?
Before I say thanks for carefully considering me for acceptance, I must comment on the post above. Hopefully someone saw through “Bitter’s” application and realized how shallow and obvious racist this person was (is)! Reading that post (if all the he/she said is true)proves that its not the superficial things that count with W&M but the “whole” person. Bitter, Understandably you are upset but there is still a class way to voice your disappointment rather than criticizing people you dont know or if their creds were better than yours and not their race. Obviously your credentials were good enough to be admitted but your attitude is definatley one I wouldn’t want to have as a classmate at W&M or anywhere else. If you were accepted to a far better institution, why are you even commenting negatively here. Seems like you WANTED W&M more than the far better institution!
To W&M, thanks for thinking high enough of me to waitlist me. There are a few schools that I was accepted to and will make a decision on which one I will attend if not offered admittance. Again thank you and congrats to the class of 2016 🙂
Thank you for this post! The kind words really helped assuage this difficult process and I can only appreciate the fact that I was waitlisted! In fact, I liked the school even more after reading this post after receiving other letters that were notoriously blunt. Congratulations to everyone who was admitted and to those waitlisted, we WILL get through this!
@Hope, first let us say that we encourage you to give the college you choose a chance and don’t see it solely as a point from which to transfer. That being said, yes, being waitlisted for freshman admission can improve your chances for transfer admission because your high school record will be more competitive than many but we’ll look closely at your college record too. Even if you’ve tested out of intro courses, there are likely great core courses in math, science, social science, English and history that you can take (macro and micro econ, bio/chem/physics, stats/calc, American history, etc).
@Thank You! and @Jessica, we are truly humbled by such thoughtful responses to the process. We are truly saddened when we cannot admit students such as yourselves. We also completely understand the many emotions that applicants experience and their desire to speak their mind and that’s what forums like this are for…for all ends of that spectrum. Best of luck to you both!
If I stay on the waitlist and am admitted, am I required to attend W&M?
@confused, if you are admitted from the waitlist you are not required to attend. However, we encourage students to remain on the waitlist only if they have a sincere interest in attending W&M. If your feelings towards W&M change between the time you add yourself to the waitlist and May 1 you are welcome to contact us and asked to be removed from the waitlist.
@Admit It! Thanks for the prompt response! At the moment I am leaning towards remaining on the waitlist, but if my feelings change it is good to know I can change my mind.
Thank you (for the response and for the consideration of my application)!
I understand the need to submit the enrollment deposit to a school that has accepted you, but I’m really concerned about the money that would be sacrificed to do so. To pay the fee for my accepted school, and then be accepted here would cause me to lose $500 I don’t have. I’d chose to attend W&M in a heartbeat if I was offered the opertunity, but I’m worried about the financial impact of commiting then switching.
^opportunity (Spell Check doesn’t work)
Heartbroken, unfortunately an enrollment deposit is pretty universal across schools. We ask students to submit money in addition to an affirmative response because it prevents people from giving numerous affirmative responses to multiple schools and simply deciding which one over the summer.
If you do not deposit elsewhere and W&M doesn’t use the waitlist or doesn’t admit you from it you will wind up without anywhere to go so depositing somewhere that admitted you is a must. The good news is that the deposit is put towards your first semester bill so it’s not an additional fee.
No problem @No Longer Confused. Best of luck to you
I’m curious as to how financial aid works for those admitted off of the waitlist. The FAQ provided was vague at best, and seemed to imply that there wouldn’t be a significant amount of FA available for those taken from the waitlist. How exactly does that process go? Are we merely given what’s left, if anything?
W/M was a school I definitely looked forward to attending if admitted for a variety of reasons, including its relatively cheap cost and great financial aid. While I still am interested in attending, I know I won’t be able to afford to do so without significant financial aid, and am worried that such aid has been eliminated/severely slashed if I get admitted from the list.
If you have decided to remain on the waitlist and have not turned in the supporting documents needed for financial aid, is that something you should still do?
@Question, you can still turn in any documents requested by Financial Aid but it’s worthwhile to keep in mind that students offered admission off the waitlist may not receive as much financial aid because much of it will be used during April for those alreay admitted.
@Thank You
Actually I do know my credentials were better than the other students’ credentials…. Small school=I have seen their SAT scores and report cards. And by the way, it’s not racism, it’s the way college admissions is now…. Also, I am in the 10% of the class and they are in the top 40%, so I actually do have all of my facts. You would be angry if you were in my particular situation as well.
Recruiting and enrolling a diverse class certainly plays a part in our process, as do other subjective factors like passion, talent, character, personality, leadership potential, etc. However, any one of those qualities alone is not what makes or breaks an application. It’s part of a much larger review process.
My daughter was placed on the waitlist Spring 2010. She was accepted off the waitlist a short time later. We revisted informally on our own, met some great students who made a fantastic impression on all of us, forfeited our deposit at Wellesley and now she is an extremely happy Tribeswoman. That being said, if she had gone to Wellesley or one of the other schools, she would have been just fine.
It is more important that you make the most of wherever you are, keep a balanced life, stay involved. The college application process can be an emotional time, but chances are that 2 weeks into your freshman year at college you won’t give it a second thought. It is truly more important to do something with your education, move forward and don’t look back. You will make new friends, have wonderful mentors and have the best time of your life. Enjoy!!
Hello! Before I ask my question id just like to say how honored I am to have been highly considered as a prospective student at W&M. It is a great school and I’m thrilled to bits that I was considered!
I’d just like to know when would be a good time to express my continued interest in W&M? I would like to send a personalized letter; should I do so come late April, or would it be better for me to send it after May 1st?
Again, thank you so much for your consideration and I hope I’ll be seeing you come next fall!
Laura, mid-to-late April is a great time. It gives you some time to consider all your options and to make sense of all the feelings that come with this part of the process.
As a parent of a W&M sophomore who was an out of state waitlister when she applied ….hang in there. Good things
DO HAPPEN to good people – even if that is not eventually W&M for you! All of you are so amazing and you will make your future amazing wherever your journey takes you!
Feel great about the fact that you were chosen, in a way, they just didn’t have the space! And, also, don’t forget how much of a privilege it is to have OTHER options and other places who not only want you but are eager and ready to have you!
Great people make great futures for themselves wherever the path takes them! Congrats for making it to the waitlist in such a tough competitive pool and at such an awesome place!!
Bitter,
I feel your pain, I really do. It sounds like you have other great options. Don’t dwell on what didn’t happen; focus on possibilities. A great student like you can be successful and happy at ANY school. So, don’t beat yourself up over “what could have been.” Figure out which of the schools that have admitted you outright are the best options, and go for it! When one door closes, another opens. Hugs, and best wishes for a happy landing!
@frustrated, those admitted from the waitlist are still eligible for financial aid but it is true that there is limited financial aid remaining after May 1. You can certainly contact the Financial Aid Office with any more specific questions but unfortunately, most of the aid available will be used by admitted students.
I just wanted to say that I am honored that I am even considered for admittance at such an outstanding institution. I was also wondering if there is anything else I could send to suppliment my application. I recieved better grades in a few of my classes as well as picked up an extra course. Thank you for taking the time to reply!
Hopeful, you can absolutely include that updated information in an statement of continued interest that you send to W&M or your regional dean specifically.
I think it is a wonderful sign that William and Mary accpets students with different levels of qualifications. It proves that they do, in fact, take a holistic approach to admissions. What a boring student body it would be if numbers were all that mattered! I have told my daughter that she should be proud that she was able to shine enough to be waitlsted at William and Mary.
*accepts
If a student was to retake the SAT test (if his/her scores were low) to increase the competitiveness of his/her application, would you accept the new scores?
@Determined, while we certainly accept and would consider any new academic information, the next SAT isn’t offered until May and those scores likely wouldn’t get to us in time to be considered. Additionally, April and May of your senior year is a time to go to prom, to celebrate with your friends, to look forward to graduation; you’ve already done what you need to apply to college. We wouldn’t ever encourage a waitlisted student to sit for another standardized test.
Thank you for all the great information. It has been very useful. I was wondering if you have any statistics from 2010 and 2011 on how many students were placed on the waitlist, and how many from that list were eventually made an offer of admission? I understand that each year is different, but it still may be useful to see. Can you disclose how many students were waitlisted this year or will that be released later in the year?
In terms of the process, if you were lucky enough to be made an offer of admission from the waitlist would you have to make an immediate deposit or be given a certain amount of time to respond and put your deposit down?
First of all, I would just like to thank however was responsible for considering me for this university and seeing my potential and I just have a quick question. If I do write a personal letter to the local dean, what kind of information should I include? Should I just express my enthusiasm for William and Mary, or should I discuss the later half of my senior year?
Thanks!
@WL Parent, thanks for the thoughtful comment and endorsement of our process. We appreciate it very much and best of luck to your daughter.
just wanted to know if you had statistics on how many students got off the wait list in previous years and how many were on the wait list those years- maybe for years 2010 and 2011? I know every year is different, but thought it might be useful. If you receive an offer of admission from the wait list how long do you have to respond and put a deposit down – a day or two? thanks for all the information. it has been very helpful.
So….. you’re saying there’s a chance! I am still very excited at the opportunity that I still have a chance to be a part of this great historic school! While I have been accepted to a number of other good schools, for me, it is very much an honor to remain in consideration. I was in grade school dreaming about attending W&M, but to be a part of the Tribe in a year with this caliber of incoming freshman would be a dream in itself. I’m in love with the College, the people, and the atmosphere, and so I’m remaining positive. Hopefully I’ll be in Green and Gold come August! Tribe Pride, Tribe Spirt, Any Outcome!!!
@padine, there are years when we’ve taken no students off the waitlist (2010-2011 we took a handful) and there are years we’ve taken 100. There’s really no rhyme or reason or way to predict. Generally about 1500 students are active on the waitlist and if offered admission from the waitlist we generally give students a few days to respond if at all possible but that timeline can be on a case-by-case basis.
@R Casey, is there a chance? Yes. We just have to see how everything sorts itself out in May and June. There’s also a chance that no additional students will be admitted but we won’t have way to know more until this summer.
If FAFSA was not submitted, would that have any bearing on a student’s acceptance?
@Ann, no. Financial aid and admission are two separate proesses. At W&M, we make a decision on your application without any knowledge of whether or not you’re pursuing need-based aid.
Hi,
My daughter was waitlisted for the Joint Degree Programme with St. Andrews. Can you tell me how many, if any, applicants were admitted from the Waitlist last year, and how many students are on the Waitlist this year?
Thank you.
@Vtmom, unfortunately no students were admitted to the joint degree programme from its waitlist last year. The program proved popular and we actually had more students enroll in it than anticipated. What’s likely most relevant to your question is how many students will elect to remain on the waitlist for the joint degree programme and we likely won’t know that for some time as students really have all of April to respond to our waitlist offer.
@R Casey. If I worked in admissions I’d move you to the top of the waitlist for quoting such a funny movie. As a W&M alum and the proud uncle of a member of the class of 2016, the Tribe can use more students who will dedicate a portion of their day to watching mindless (but funny) movies.
Thanks Admit It!
That probably is the more relevant question. I am not surprised that all students accepted decided to enroll as the program offers an extraordinary and unique opportunity. We will keep our fingers crossed.
I am frustrated; William and Mary is my top choice, the one school I absolutely fell in love with, and I feel as though anywhere else I go will be a let down and be the school that I HAD to go to. Though no admissions officer would admit it, if they see that you have great grades, activities, and a warm personality, and just a good ACT/SAT they will often waitlist or reject those kids; it’s rather shallow: we are more than number. No use crying over it though.
Congratulations to the 2016 Tribe.
@history25, we certainly understand your frustration. We know that the students on our waitlist are stand-out students and that they’ve worked incredibly hard and accomplished so much. And we know that you’re more than a number; an SAT or ACT score alone is not the reason we arrive at any decision. It certainly informs the decision we make but we will never not take a student only because of an ACT/SAT score. The reality is that great grades, activites and personalities are commonplace in our pool and so we make some very tough decisions between all great students. For numerous reasons, the students we admit had applications that stood out a bit more than the others in our pool but not admitting a student in no way diminishes how hard you’ve worked or what you’ve accomplished. If W&M remains a top choice you can consider transferring down the line.
@Query, @Worried and @ann martinez, we apologize but your comments got caught in spam and just released today.
@Query, generally about 1500 students elect to remain on the waitlist. In 2010, we admitted about 100 students from the waitlist. In 2011, it was less than 10. Sadly, there’s no discernible pattern to whether we have room to admit additional students or not.
@Worried, your interest and a brief update since you applied would be great content for an email/letter to your dean.
@ann martinez, fantastic post! Things definitely do work themselves out in the end.
@Diana, another great post (that also sadly got caught in spam).
@Queried, we forgot to answer part two of your question. If admitted from the waitlist we generally give students a few days to make their decision.
I plan to write a letter of continued interest. To whom should I address the letter? Also, should I mail it to the office of undergraduate admission? Thanks!
@Interested, you can address it to the Admission Committee and mailing it to our office is just fine.
Don’t give up hope, waitlisters. My daughter was accepted (out-of-state), but with scholarship offers from several other schools, the out-of-state tuition at W&M just would not make sense. So, there’s a spot that will be opening up, and I’m sure there will be others.
@Ted, good luck to your daughter. We’re sorry to hear she won’t be attending W&M.
We do encourage students and families to keep in mind that we make far more offers of admission than we have room for in our class so those students who are electing not to attend W&M don’t necessarily open up room for other students on the waitlist.
The pain of being waitlisted is akin to being hit with a cinder block. At first, disorientation sets in, followed by a fit of rage directed toward the faceless attacker. The world is made out of only injury and fury. Slowly, though, the damage is repaired and the bruises begin to fade. You start to move on, dodging questions about the marks on your face like you might avoid eye contact with sketchy people on the evening train. You begin to realize that there’s more to life than getting upset over being slammed in the face with that cinder block. You get it together and only think of the incident rarely, perhaps when you’ve been sharing stories with friends and really want to surprise them.
So here’s to moving on, fellow waitlist-ees. Yes, we all did get hit in the face. Yes, it really hurt. But you know what? I could spend my whole life thinking about that one moment of agony, wondering what I could have done differently (should I have avoided the attacker altogether?), and it still doesn’t change the fact that it happened and it’s over. We’re all still the same people we were before the event.
But that’s just my two cents.
@Anonymous, we’re sorry being waitlisted felt like being hit with a cinder block. Out of curiosity, do you believe it’s more painful than being denied? We waitlist students because we feel their credentials don’t merit a deny but we also understand sometimes students would almost rather have a final answer than be kept waiting for it. Thoughts?
Seeing as this is a blog about being waitlisted, I didn’t think it would be appropriate to bring up those who have had the misfortune of being rejected. I honestly don’t know what’s happening in their minds at this moment.
However, if I wanted to further branch out the cinder block analogy, I would image being rejected feels somewhat like being caught on the tracks of a speeding train. Emotionally speaking, of course.
As for being caught in the limbo that is the waitlist, well, it is what it is. It is by no means a good situation for the parties involved: the administration has to deal with the bad feelings associated with keeping people halfway between acceptance and denial via electronic blog, and the waitlist-ees begin to question their self worth.
However, it is my belief that the waitlist should remain, if for no other reason than the matter of pride. I’ll admit it; it feels better to be waitlisted than to receive a rejection in the mail. Even a touch of potentially false hope is better than the stark reality of 0% odds.
@Anonymous, no inetions of being inappropriate, just asking for an honest opinion. Waitlists are a definite hot topic among admission/college counseling professionals with some falling on the side that it’s better to simply deny than waitlist so just curious how students feel.
Oh, not at all. I was speaking only of my thoughts concerning my own posts. Frankly, Admit It!, I think you’re handling this well, given that I’m the only one commenting on this blog anymore.
As long as you want input, I can tell you that I did appreciate the gesture known as the waitlist. In situations as complicated as deciding who gets in and who doesn’t, some may think it’s kinder to simply separate the two portions into those who got in and those who didn’t. I’m here to tell you that (at least in my case), that’s simply not true. By putting me on your waitlist, you’re letting me know that I had more of a shot than some people. It feels like you appreciated the time I spent on your application.
So yes, maybe I’m a bit bitter about not making the cut. Maybe I’ve got a lot of pent up frustration over the whole event. But being waitlisted is still better than an outright rejection.
Appreciate your thoughts @Anonymous. All the best to you with your future plans!
My daughter was wait listed (and disappointed about it). Last night she received a phone call from a coach who told her she can come off the wait list. We will, of course, need to view financial aid before she can commit. We understand that the aid will be less due to the wait list status.
Will she be eligible for full need based grants/VGAP next year if she accepts a lesser package this year?
Also, my daughter has a recently diagnosed learning disability that was not disclosed on her application. She has been approved for accommodations at the in-state University she was planning/may still attend. I understand that reviewing a report would take time that we may not have. I heard from a counselor at our school that W&M has not been as willing to accommodate students with minor disabilities (i.e., t hey don’t get approved). In your experience, is this the case?
Thanks so much for your forthright responses! We appreciate them.
@Wondering, if your daughter is offered admission from the waitlist, chances are that there will be little financial aid left available for this year. However, students reapply for financial aid each year and one year’s aid does not dictate future years’ aid. You are welcome to contact the Financial Aid Office to get a sense of whether she would have been eligible for additional aid had she been admitted outright.
As for accommodations, you can certainly contact our Office of Disability Services (757-221-2510). While they won’t be able to commit to any resources without evaluating your daughter, they can certainly offer some insight as to how students with similar disabilities have been accommodated by their office.
Hopefully then you’ll have more information on which to make a decision should you receive an offer of admission.
Thanks, W&M. I kind of thought that might be the case with the aid. I guess we will wait and see. About how long does a student actually have to decide?
@Wondering, it tends to vary case by case but generally it’s a matter of days that we give someone to make a decision.
I was wondering if you want to add additional information, like grades and awards, do you just send an email yourself letting the school know or does an administrator at your school have to do it or what?
On another note…I feel like being waitlisted is like denial in that the chance of denial is 0%, but the chances of getting accepted off the waitlist are really just the same–I mean that 10% (give or take a few) feels just like 0% to me.
@ILoveCW, you are welcome to send an email updating us with any new pertinant information. Not sure where you got the 10% chance figure. There’s no specific chances of being admitted off the waitlist in any given year. You are right, some years the percent of those admitted is minimal but other years we’ve certainly admitted numerous students but we do understand that being waitlisted doesn’t always offer a great deal of hope.
Now that you know how many students you netted from the offers of admission you made, are you able to disclose an approximate number you will be admitting from the waitlist?
I read on a college confidential thread that W&M has activated the waitlist. Is this true or merely a rumor?
@Patientlywaiting, where are you seeing this on CC? W&M Admission is on CC every day (at least the specific W&M forum) and hasn’t seen any current waitlist chatter. We are in the process of meeting to determine how we will move forward with regard to the waitlist but we have not yet made any public announcement regarding it. Once we have finalized our plans we’ll be sure to update everyone via social media and the blog.
@Heather, see our response to @Patientlywaiting. We’re in the process of making decisions about what if any action we’ll take regarding the waitlist and hope to be able to blog about that later this week.
If we called the admissions office would they be able to tell us why exactly we were waitlisted and if there was any additional information we could provide them with?
@justwondering, you can certainly make contact with your regional dean but there’s never a specific answer. It’s not as if you had taken this class or gotten this SAT/ACT, the decision would be different. The reality is that we have more competitive applicants than we have spaces for in the incoming class which forces us to put outstanding students on the waitlist. We don’t need any additional information but you can send a continued statement of interest if you wish.
My daughter graduated Magna with all the required extras and then sum. This is the only school she wanted. She was not even waitlisted. This is a … There will no longer be trips to Virginia, no more gifts to historical societies and no large tuition payments. Keep these for Virginians. My daughter was excepted in the other 4 schools which were difficult to get into. There are 49 other states. If $ is tight, why don’t you want some from other states. …..
@Mother, we’re not quite sure what you’re asking but it sounds like your daughter had some wonderful options even if W&M wasn’t among them which is an enviable position to be in.